1 Bill & Tedds Great DiscreetFX MisAdventure... 16/3/2012, 20:33
Franko
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Wow... the scam & shambles that is DiscreetFX is finally being revealed bit by tiny bit at last...
Bill P when finally questioned about certain "Staff members" (you know the ones who work In the DiscreetFX Labs A.K.A someone's bedroom/ house) the answer was basically "Not me, Deron is our programmer"...
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Bill said about Deron, "Deron Kazmier, he is the programmer of Aladdin 4D 6.0 and is paid for his services. Deron is a great guy"...
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Gotta say this much for you, that's awfully nice of you to employ someone to produce a product for you and pay them to take however long they want to try and come up with a product and not even dare to ask them just when they might actually be finished or indeed if they are actually working on anything... nice...
Now as revealed by Amiga.org member Ral-Clan, "Deron Kazmaier (Pagestream) admits he works from his home (he has a blog about it)."...
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Deron must be a really great guy after all if he rent's out his home for DiscreetFX to use as their "Labs"...
Now I've run my own business in the past and one of the first & most basic things you learn is, don't bullshit & lie to your potential customers as you will be found out in the end...
Seems Bill P and Tedd Gallion (CEO of DiscreetFX) haven't learnt this most simple of business lessons and have spent many a year bullshitting potential customers about their vapourware products and loony tune claims about having custom "Lab" facilities where they employ "staff" to produce all their vapourware...
Was there a point to all of this shambles carried out by Bill & Tedd and their great adventures at DiscreetFX (and is still being carried out as I speak), was it just a couple of nutters with delusions of grandeur who just wanted 15 minutes of fame and not to be known as just plain losers, or is it some miserably failed get rich very slowly scheme that even though it didn't work the daft buggers still haven't given up trying....
Yes It's bizarre to say the least and yes Tedd G still hangs onto the faint hope that he can sell the Amiga,org site to someone with Apple connections, as that is his ultimate dream & goal (that's why they want Aladdin 4D to be written for OS X first)...
But that begs the questions...
Why lie and try to con Amiga users for all these years with the hype and bullshit, B & T know by now that they aint making enough money from Amiga users to cover Tedds unpaid debts (which he told me about via email)...
Why lie to them about trying to sell off Amiga.org to pay for those debts...
Why lie and take pre-order money from some Amiga.org members for this vapourware and take two years to pay them back their money...
Why, quite simply WHY this bullshit and farcical charade, was it just for 15 minutes of fame or hoping to make a quick buck to cover some unpaid debts, is it still with the vain hope that someone with Apple connections will step in, or is it simply the fact that your both a pair of nutters who's little get rich quick scheme failed spectacularly and miserably in public...
PS: Have to admit I love the way you changed the number of "Views" in that thread and not one person on Amiga.org even noticed... neat...
Bill P when finally questioned about certain "Staff members" (you know the ones who work In the DiscreetFX Labs A.K.A someone's bedroom/ house) the answer was basically "Not me, Deron is our programmer"...
Full Comment Here...
Bill said about Deron, "Deron Kazmier, he is the programmer of Aladdin 4D 6.0 and is paid for his services. Deron is a great guy"...
Full Comment Here...
Gotta say this much for you, that's awfully nice of you to employ someone to produce a product for you and pay them to take however long they want to try and come up with a product and not even dare to ask them just when they might actually be finished or indeed if they are actually working on anything... nice...
Now as revealed by Amiga.org member Ral-Clan, "Deron Kazmaier (Pagestream) admits he works from his home (he has a blog about it)."...
Full Comment Here...
Deron must be a really great guy after all if he rent's out his home for DiscreetFX to use as their "Labs"...
Now I've run my own business in the past and one of the first & most basic things you learn is, don't bullshit & lie to your potential customers as you will be found out in the end...
Seems Bill P and Tedd Gallion (CEO of DiscreetFX) haven't learnt this most simple of business lessons and have spent many a year bullshitting potential customers about their vapourware products and loony tune claims about having custom "Lab" facilities where they employ "staff" to produce all their vapourware...
Was there a point to all of this shambles carried out by Bill & Tedd and their great adventures at DiscreetFX (and is still being carried out as I speak), was it just a couple of nutters with delusions of grandeur who just wanted 15 minutes of fame and not to be known as just plain losers, or is it some miserably failed get rich very slowly scheme that even though it didn't work the daft buggers still haven't given up trying....
Yes It's bizarre to say the least and yes Tedd G still hangs onto the faint hope that he can sell the Amiga,org site to someone with Apple connections, as that is his ultimate dream & goal (that's why they want Aladdin 4D to be written for OS X first)...
But that begs the questions...
Why lie and try to con Amiga users for all these years with the hype and bullshit, B & T know by now that they aint making enough money from Amiga users to cover Tedds unpaid debts (which he told me about via email)...
Why lie to them about trying to sell off Amiga.org to pay for those debts...
Why lie and take pre-order money from some Amiga.org members for this vapourware and take two years to pay them back their money...
Why, quite simply WHY this bullshit and farcical charade, was it just for 15 minutes of fame or hoping to make a quick buck to cover some unpaid debts, is it still with the vain hope that someone with Apple connections will step in, or is it simply the fact that your both a pair of nutters who's little get rich quick scheme failed spectacularly and miserably in public...
PS: Have to admit I love the way you changed the number of "Views" in that thread and not one person on Amiga.org even noticed... neat...
Last edited by Franko on 24/3/2012, 13:41; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Surname Removed As Requested...)